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[edit]A few random comments: 1. It's claimed that Districts have replaced Counties for governing, yet there is almost no information about the Districts. This is obviously a flaw in an article about a political/national sub-division, especially one with democratic governance. 2. The Districts need a map and demographic information or a *good* explanation of why they are ignored here.(not to mention an explanation of why they replaced counties and how the governments are formed and influence the NI and UK governments. 3. Schools section claim the 2021-2022 school year is "the most recent". As I write this in Oct. '24, it is false. And a note to would-be editors: AVOID the terms "most recent" and "current" because what you write here may be there for years if not decades (and it shouldn't be assumed that it'll be updated in a timely fashion). 4. Economic section uses the term GVA with no explanation. I shouldn't have to guess. If I don't know what it means, and I don't, then most readers unfamiliar with NI won't either, I'd bet.5. This article seems stuck in the past. Really, what relevance is rope making to the economy? Should the section lead with that? (If so, then why not hunting and scavenging (and living in caves)? Crikey, the section doesn't even mention when/how/why "ship building", "rope making" and "textiles" lost their preeminence. And "services" is a lame descriptor for the major component of the GVA (whatever that is). Financial services? Health services? Government services?... Way too much talk about "tradition" here at the expense of ignoring the way it is TODAY.98.17.180.146 (talk) 13:10, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- I should also add that the terms unionist, nationalist, loyalist, and republican have general meanings that don't clearly convert to their Norther Ireland usage. The pairs shouldn't be used as synonyms here. That is, once you explain these terms, choose one (for the two sides (I assume these describe two opposing points of view?)) and stick with it. (And you should consider a short section devoted to explaining who loyalists, republicans, unionists, and nationalists are.) Also, shouldn't these terms be capitalized (here)?98.17.180.146 (talk) 13:23, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- You clearly don't understand NI politics in particular or political terminology in general. Bro could also just link to a wiki article for each term. Stop crashing out g HungarianBulldogRidingBullFrog (talk) 15:38, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
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—102.212.137.31 (talk) 22:59, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- You haven't said what you think is wrong with the coordinates in the article, and they appear to be correct. If you still think that there is an error, you'll need to give a clear explanation of what it is. Deor (talk) 13:53, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
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Change Term "Belfast Agreement" to "The Good Friday Agreement" the more commonly accepted name or a combination of both. 176.249.136.48 (talk) 15:25, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
Note: The article already mentions that the Belfast Agreement is commonly known as the Good Friday Agreement (both links lead to the same article). I personally don't see the need to change it, especially if some "Belfast Agreement" is attributed to certain sources. M.Bitton (talk) 15:51, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- I am just asking a doubt, If the title of the article on Wikipedia is 'Good Friday agreement', shouldn't it be shown first and 'Belfast agreement' in brackets? Warriorglance(talk to me) 11:00, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Valid point, let me examine and then I’ll see what I can do. Valorrr (talk) 14:58, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
- I am just asking a doubt, If the title of the article on Wikipedia is 'Good Friday agreement', shouldn't it be shown first and 'Belfast agreement' in brackets? Warriorglance(talk to me) 11:00, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
Done Valorrr (talk) 15:01, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
Map
[edit]Canterbury Tail:
- "The map is utterly illegible in thumbnail format." — So what? So many maps and other images have to be blown up.
- "You have to get the largest zoom version of it to be able to read it." — That's right. So it is with so many images, including most every OSM-based map that I have made. By and large, there have been no problems with that. Why are you so upset with this particular one? Let users blow them up to full size. It's no big deal, after all.
- "Plus it's not just the main towns and settlements, there's so much going on in it." – Oh dear! Am I wilfully committing the serious crime of spreading knowledge? That is what I am here for and I am proud to do it. That map is meant to be exhaustive, Cant. This is an encyclopaedia, not a travel brochure. I have filled that map with information and I worked long and hard to do it so that users could have maximum information.
- "For an article like this a better map would be a smaller one with the main settlements picked out that can be easily viewed by readers." — You mean a crappy map that tells users next to nothing. And for your information, "an article like this" is one that should include as much information about Northern Ireland as possible — and this map helps make it possible.
I don't know what it is, Cant. Perhaps you suffer information overload when confronted by files such as this one. Perhaps you can't create things yourself and get jealous of those who can, but that doesn't entitle you to destroy their efforts and remove perfectly relevant information from WP, but I have made many of these maps, and they all seem to have been well received. So just lay off, please. There's no better map of Northern Ireland on WP than this one. Kelisi (talk) 21:33, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- The problem is it's of no use to the reader for the most part when you have to open the image and then zoom in a couple of times before it's legible. Yes it's a good map, but it's not particularly helpful in the article. Reading the article it provides zero value unless you go off and click into it and load the zoom. Additionally you've been around long enough to understand WP:BRD and WP:ONUS. Canterbury Tail talk 21:41, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- It is of perfectly good use, just like all the others that I've made. You talk about blowing a file up as though it were some kind of Herculean labour. It's two clicks for Pete's sake. I have a suggestion: if you don't like looking at the map, then don't look at it. Many others would love to look at it. You have no business forbidding them to do so. Kelisi (talk) 23:46, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
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